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~ ...type 1 - 2 pass (from a 7x6 turk's head)
PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:47 am  Reply with quote
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type 1 - 2 pass pineapple knot (from a 7x6 turk's head knot)

( ** = splitting the pairs (at the edge))
(*** = splitting the pairs (in the middle))

1.)  -----> U2 O1 U1 O1 U2
2.)  <----- O1 U1 O1 U2
3.)  -----> O1 U1 O1 U3**
4.)  <----- O1 U1 O1 U3**
5.)  -----> O1 U1 O1 U3**
6.)  <----- O2*** U1 O1 U3**
7.)  -----> O2*** U1 O1 U3**
8.)  <----- O2*** U2*** O1 U3**
9.)  -----> O2*** U2*** O1 U3**
10.) <----- O2*** U2*** O2*** U3**
11.) -----> O2*** U2*** O2*** U3**
12.) <----- O2*** U2*** O2*** &Out



hello pineapple knot folks...
...here is the type 1 - 2 pass pineapple knot (from a 7x6 turk's head knot)
...you start out with a 7x6 turk's head knot!!...and since it is a type
1 pineapple knot that means there will be a smaller turk's head knot
woven inside the 7x6...in this case the inside turk's head will be a 5x6...
...the photos are pretty much self explanatory so you should have no
problems following them.....if you have any questions feel free to ask!!..







































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...to make the ends disappear you first thread the
standing end into the middle of the knot...





...then you thread the working end into the
middle of the knot...





...do the same thing with the inside turk's head...
...after you have tightened the knot the last thing
you will do is to snip the ends as close to the knot
as you can and push them inside the knot...the
ends will completely disappear!!...you might think
that getting rid of the ends of a pineapple knot is
hard but it is very easy...and the bigger the pineapple
knot the easier it is to get rid of the ends!!...



...here is the finished type 1 - 2 pass pineapple knot!!...
...all of the type 1 pineapple knots follow these same basic
rules and you should have no problem making them in all
sizes!!!....

KNOT CHALLENGE!: can you now tye a type 1 - 2 pass
pineapple knot (from a 9x8 turk's head knot?!...or a "long"
type 1 - 2 pass pineapple knot (from say a 13x6 or 15x6
turk's head knot)??...(to make the 9x8 you just use the
mule on the 7x6!!...)....you should now be able to make
these knots with no "O-U-O-U" instructions?!!...just use
the "rules" to making type 1 pineapple knots!!...

...((the one important thing to keep in mind when making
these type 1 pineapple knots is to remember that with some
turk's head knots the inside turk's head cannot be tyed!...for
example: the 11x6 outside turk's head will have a 9x6 turk's
head --which can't by tyed!!...))
**...(actually they can all be tyed!!...but you have to use
2-3 interwoven turk's head knots to accomplish this!!..there
is a list/chart of these in one of the latest Knotting Matters!!)




...this is a type 1 - 2 pass pineapple knot (from a 7x6 turk's head knot)
made with kangaroo lace!



...this knot is a pineapple knot type weave, but the outside
knot is not a turk's head knot!!...it is a footrope knot...but
the same rules apply...



...these dog leads used "long" turk's head knots as the
outside knot...i did not need the O-U-O-U directions to make
these knots!!....i just used the "rules" and these knots were
easy to tye!!...



...these were made from 17x6 and 13x6 outside turk's head
knots...the interweaves were made just by following the "rules"
of making type 1 pineapple knots...




Des Pawson's Knot Craft: 28 Ropework Projects
ISBN-10: 0713681500
ISBN-13: 978-0713681505

....this book has an excellent explanation of how to make
"long" turk's head knots...Des shows how to make "long" 4 bight
turk's head knots in a very simple way!!....(!!...once you have
made the 4 bight turk's heads you simply use the "mule" to expand
them to 6 bight turk's head knots!!)....

...and of course the Tom Hall books also have excellent explanations
of all turk's head knots and how to expand them...and also instructions
for many pineapple knots....

...the braiding books on the Hought site are excellent!

 http://www.hought.com/

...and Round Knots and Braids by Ron Edwards is amazing!!!...

...i hope you now understand how the type 1 - 2 pass pineapple
knots work!!...if you make any knots with these instructions please
post your photos!!....

Dan-Alaska



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:50 pm Reply with quote
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Thought I would post this here for the avid lurkers. lol
type 1 - 2 pass done with round black rubber necklace lace and glow in the dark lace. Core is a 3/4" wood bead with 1/8" hole.
Could have used perhaps another pass because I can see some of the core, but then I may have too much and it deform the knot.
Such is the ongoing search for perfection.
Wink

The in the dark picture stinks, but it looks neat. Ya'll will have to trust me and imagine.

Scott
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:55 pm Reply with quote
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Looks good from here, Scott!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:20 pm Reply with quote
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I'm trying to learn how to tie this pineapple knot but the pictures in the tutorial are not working. It seems that the site knotical-arts no longer works. Does anyone know where i can view a similar tutorial for this knot.
Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:17 pm Reply with quote
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Hello Hennabiz, welcome to the forum. Glad you are interested in our passions.

Here is a link to the reconstituted tutorials. http://pineappleknotstutorials.over-blog.org/

Due to the diligence of someone determined, these were salvaged from the ether and posted to share. I for one am very thankful.

Fredz *thumbsup*
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 3:56 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks so much for the link! I used it to cover the 17 to 9 strand braid transitions on a binocular strap for my friends father. I am in the Coast Guard and recently got into knot tying while underway to pass the time. It's relaxing (most of the time) and feels infinitely more productive than video games. Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:48 pm Reply with quote
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The thanks go to others, I just facilitated it. Glad to help.
Show some pictures of your work when you can.
I agree, this is infinitely more productive and most certainly more gratifying than a lot of things we do when we have time to fill.
Teach your buddies!

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