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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: The Chain Start Reply with quote

The chain start is another nice way to start a flat panel of netting.
Wrap the working end of your cord twice around the gauge and tie a knot.  I generally tie a overhand knot with the loop and adjust it so it fits exactly twice arouind the gauge.
This is MESH # 1
A.  Place Mesh #1 over hook and adjust loop so that knot is halfway between top and bottom of loop.
B.  With gauge tie MESH # 2 into bottom of loop.  
C.  Remove gauge and Tie #3 into #2.  Remove gauge and continue in this manner.
D.  Tiie exactly TWICE the number of loops you need for the panel of netting you are making.  The example has 6 meshes to make a panel 3 meshes wide.
E.  Put a support cord (Anchor) through the even numbered meshes and begin to net into the odd numbered meshes.



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony ~

Thanks for the info.  I've some #30 bonded and will work on one of these at lunch time today.

I had a hard time finding the heading twin on Hamilton's site too, but if you click their "View our 09 catalog" button in the header of the page, you can find the product numbers.  I went to the commercial fishing section and found 12 options in multiple sizes and colors on page 74....

It shouldn't be that hard, but at least they still carry it....

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Brian,  I was afraid that I could not get any more of that cord.  I wonder why It doesn't show up in the main search. Tony
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just spoke with Hamilton and they are having issues with their online store.   It sounded like the product number database is a bit off as even with the product number I needed, the search returned empty.

Very nice folks though and they are sending the heading twine today.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a diagram of what I tried to explain.  It is set up for a much smaller panel of netting but shows the general idea.  Note that 3 meshes are added as you net into the long sides of the end meshes.   Note the TRIANGULAR shape of the mesh as you net into the long bars of the netting. That is why you need to discard the gauge and eyeball it. Tony



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To clear up any confusion that might arise:
 The chain start gives you 3 rows of flat netting with 2 long bars as the netting drops from one level to the next.  By adding one row to this you add an additional long bar.  When you net into the long bars you add 3 additional meshes.  In the example shown I started with 7 meshes.  If you count the Green meshes you will come up with 10.  
 This chain start becomes the bottom of tha bag and no additional seam is needed.  Tony
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have posted more than one link to this site. It is well worth the time to read it through. http://abacoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3753  
Posts #111 (page 4) and #129 (page 5) show a way to join the ends of the chain so that it can be used to make a circular net,  without the gap discussed in this thread in the Netmaking Questions section of this forum.  Tony
http://pineapple.myfunforum.org/about1368.html
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony ~  what a GREAT Find....

I'm not all the way through the post on cast nets, but wonder why he's loaded two needles and whether or not it is relevant that the needles appear to be different sizes.

thoughts?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so ~ i got a break tonight and was able to read the entire thread...  Mr. Landham uses a shuttle to neatly hold his "tag end" or standing end which is used to expand the diameter of the net.  Given the target diameter for the net and that the tag end should be 3x the diameter, quite a bit of cord needs to be managed and kept neat/clean...

Should have finished reading the post prior to posting my earlier ?

I've some #12 twine ~ more items now on the list to go make (time permitting)...


Cheers ~

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You brought up an interesting question Brian and then answered it yourself.  The only dumb question is the one you don't ask.


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