Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:29 am Post subject: Greetings, I'm the new guy!!
Hi all, my name is Brock and I live in Ontario, Canada. I have been in the background of this forum for far too long so I thought I'd make my first post.
At this point my focus seems to be on netting (and I have completed one tri-hammock net with the help of the forum) however I do own a copy of ABOK so the sky's the limit, eh?
I'd like to ask all the net folks out there about net bags......
I would like to make a flat bag with handles but I'm not quite sure how to go about it.
Hi Brock and welcome to the forum. Nice to see another net maker here
There are many ways to make a net bag. This is one.
You will have to net tubular rather. This is exactly the same technique an flat netting except that at the end of the row you need to tie a drop knot so that there will not be a extra large mesh ar the beginning of each row. See
http://pineapple.myfunforum.org/about469.html
Start with 23 loops tied into the stirrup (1 1/4" gauge) rather than the dimensions given.
The overhand knot described works very well but to make a knot that is hard to distinguish from a sheet bend bring the W.E. (working end) over and under the tail making a half hitch (Left).
Tug on the W.E. spilling the half hitch to the Tail (Right). Adjust this hitch so that it is level with the row of meshes just tied.
Pretend this is a mesh you have just put the needle through. Complete them knot by tying around the 2 strands as in normal netting.
Complete the bottom of the bag by method 4 shown here
http://pineapple.myfunforum.org/about468.html
Remove the stirrup. Put a cord through the bottom meshes, tie ends togerher, and anchor the cord. Begin the handle by tying into one mesh and net into the next 5 meshes (red). net back and forth, flat netting until handle is desired length (odd number of rows).
Bring handle around so that the top of the net and the end of the handle are one mesh apart (eyeball it here, no gauge). Put the handle through a loop of cord and anchor the loop to maintain this distance.
Now go back and forth (shown in blue) top set of meshes, from handle to bag ending at the bag.
Of course you could aleays thread a heavier cord through the top row to use as a draw string. Tony
Brian. The red net bag was started at the bottom.
I did the chain start
http://pineapple.myfunforum.org/about950.html
with a slight change. For a bag 24 meshes in diameter make the chain 21 meshes long. Then put the support cord in the odd loops and net one row.
Now you will be working in a spiral. Put the support loop in the midddle few loops and begin netting. When you get to the meshes with the long bars net into both the ends and sides. This will add 3 more meshes to the total. These extra meshes will be triangles rather than diamonds so discard the gauge and eyeball it.
Make the bag as long as you want and attach handles.
I just checked Hamilton Marine and could not find the heading twine or needles. When I Google heading twine Hamilton Marine comes up but when I click on the link "the page does not exist" Strange.
Anyway on second thought the red twine may have been #450 which is just SLIGHTLY thicker than the #550.
The Google search also came up with
http://www.newenglandmarine.com/Product%20Categories/Ropes.htm
I don't know what material their twine is made of. The red twine from Hamilton was "polypro" which was less slippery than nylon.
Tony
Tony,
Thank you so much for responding so quickly....that thing about the drop knot is significant bit of info as I have tried netting in the round with a grommet and I always have huge meshes at the beginning, so now I know. Oh, and by the way, what is a stirrup?
Brock, Stirrup is the name I give to the support cord or anchor cord used in netting. It is what the first row of netting is tied onto. Tony
http://pineapple.myfunforum.org/about469.html
Brian. Here is a diagram of what I tried to explain about the red net bag. It is set up for a much smaller panel of netting but shows the general idea. Note that 3 meshes are added as you net into the long sides of the end meshes. Note the TRIANGULAR shape of the mesh as you net into the long bars of the netting. That is why you need to discard the gauge and eyeball it. Tony
To clear up any confusion that might arise:
The chain start gives you 3 rows of flat netting with 2 long bars as the netting drops from one level to the next. By adding one row to this you add an additional long bar. When you net into the long bars you add 3 additional meshes. In the example shown I started with 7 meshes. If you count the Green meshes you will come up with 10.
This chain start becomes the bottom of tha bag and no additional seam is needed. Tony
That is great Brock. Netting spiral has its uses but the drop knot really makes a difference. I did not include it in the basic instructions as I was just demonstrating the netting techniques taught to me by that old time Pennsylvania net maker. Tony
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Oh, and by the way, what is a stirrup?
